the big tragedy here and i spent my career fighting for victims. we may never know in large part because of casey's lies and because she didn't come forth in the very beginning to say what she knew about her daughter. that being said, patti ann, i said on this program the past few weeks there were major, major problems with this case and i think we saw that come out in this verdict. patti ann: yeah. so, you mentioned lies. you know, cindy, her mother, got on the stand and said she searched the chloroform. that was proven false. some are asking if she could face perjury charges next. >> look at the end of the day the jury had more questions than answers number one. and the second thing is they didn't know who to believe. number one they weren't about to make up answers to questions when they didn't have the answers. and number two, they weren't about to try to figure out who do i believe in this whole web of lies. so, do i think that cindy or george are going to face perjury charges? i don't think so. that's my honest opinion. but what i do think is